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Saturday, December 27, 2014

Testimonials .

Thankyou Bee for all the information and effort you  both put into making the [Soil ] weekend a great success and given us hope for many great changes at our farm to come. I have just had breakfast with my neighbour in Fremantle who is very interested in doing a future workshop. .....

Thank you again.


Hi Bee and Stewart,
I just wanted to say a big thank you to you both, for giving your time and for your warm hospitality, when we recently visited your property.  I would have loved to stay longer.  You have a beautiful place and I could feel the passion you both have for organics and permaculture.  Rob and the boys also enjoyed learning about the pigs and being able to wander and explore.  Jake particularly liked the ducks! For me, it was great to see so many permaculture practices, in place on  a larger scale property.  I loved the worm farm and chicken runs.  I am now inspired to start my compost tea brewing again and I will let you know of the outcome.  As I have been learning about swales it was also great to see the swales that you created and how they work.   I was able to obtain ample material for my assignment, so thank you.

Bee bread was delicious and chicken was like real chicken  yummy ! Thankyou,  Mrs H

[we found] your beautiful farm!
Please thank your husband for welcoming us. …. We had the pork mince last night....beautiful probably the most delicious spag bol we've ever had :)

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and the happiest new year. Taking the time to really thank you for providing me and my family with such beautiful organic produce, so thanks for all your work this year.
Love J, Ian, J, Jo,,S,M,and C.
Hi Bee & Stew

Happy New Year! Hope you guys had a lovely Christmas and New year celebration!

Just wanted to let you know the pork we got from you a few weeks back has been amazing as usual! Also the blackberries were so yummy (big hit with my 2 yr old daughter!) and the woodfired bread was so good too! Peaches and nectarines beautiful as well. Amazing food as always so thanks Bee.

All the best for 2015 and we look forward to enjoying lots more of your amazing produce this year!



Hi Bee
Just a quick message now that I’m safely home (with the kids tucked up for the night - all fed, happy and exhausted!)  to say how much we enjoyed our visit to your farm today. Thank you for opening up your amazing property to us all. The kids are full of tales of how they milked the cow, fed the animals, held chooks, hit down the walnuts and collected eggs ready to regale to their friends when they go back to school this week. Lunch was delicious and we were all fascinated to learn about the wonderful things you grow. …
Dear Bee and Stewart .................. the most wondrous buttery tasting kale i have ever tasted !
AND delicious avocados and so-yummy- wheaty-flavorsome BREAD

Hi Bee
 Thanks again for coming and talking to us last night. You were really fantastic, so easy to listen to and so knowledgeable. I know how busy your life is so we really do appreciate it. If you would ever like to talk again we would just love to have you.
 Sal xxx
 Sally Gray ND
Naturopath - Nutritionist - GAPS Practitioner - Herbalist - Educator - Author
Real Healthy Kids

The lamb chops were amazing. The fat on your animals tastes completely different than other meats, it is crispier if that makes sense (even better than other organic grass fed meats). I wonder what it is that does that? The raspberries were the best I ever had, so firm and tasted just like raspberries if you know what I mean? I loved the yoghurt, it tastes more sour but I like that (and so does James). The more sour/fermented it is the more lactobacilli and other bacteria there is. Also it has less lactose, which is better. You can really taste the difference between yours and other organic yoghurts (which are only done for 6-12 hours). The bread is really delicious too.
 Just wanted to let you know, we had the rump roast rubbed with fennel seeds last night and tonight, and it was some of the most delicious meat we have ever had. So moist with the fat, and so tasty. So nice to eat meat that I didn't have to worry about - because I knew it had had the most perfect, happy life right till the end. Could just enjoy it for two reasons - firstly, it was perfect, so I didn't feel bad that some animal died for an average tasting bit of food, secondly, because I knew she had a good life. Plus, lots of lard saved for future roast potatoes. Food of the gods (apart from mash of course). The main difference I noticed with your pork compared to ordinary pork, is that the fatty bits are nice to eat, not a flubbery, grainy, nasty jelly mess like from other producers. Loved it, let me know when you are raising more meat of any kind, and we will have some. 
I come in a few times to the organic markets when i lived in Belmont for your lovely roast beef, best I've tasted. J.M.

Hi Bee

I had a great time on the weekend, i was amazed at how quick you could feel at home in your home. For me it was great to meet you three in away that i felt you can live ge free and organicly and still fit in with society. Already have started my worm farm. Also has changed what i buy from the shops and working on the bigger plan. I even found myself looking up land in Nannup on sunday night.

I dont realy have much constructive critism, as it was great. I felt i learned a lot more once it was the three of us rather than saturday morning when we were with others that already knew a lot more, it got a bit complicated for me. So i think it would good if possible for people at similar stages to spend the weekend together as we had.  Also i think the more hands on stuff on the farm it what i remenber the most and would encourage that side the most.

I enjoyed it a lot  and would love to come again in the future.

In regards to the market, do you need to pre - order. What time does it start. Is there any chance you will have anymore of that berry compot, already finished it, yum. Were after yogurt, ice cream, bacon, avo and what size do the hams come in (i realy like the ham we had at lunch)

Regards b
thankyou so much for a truly wonderful stay.
i felt so nourished on every level.
it was a perfect mix….
just had your milk- best milk I have ever tasted in my life
Just did the course last weekend, it was absolutely brilliant! Such a beautiful farm with many happy animals.Organic farming has been a viable way of farming for thousands of years, things went wrong when scientists brainwash you into believing that food should come from a laboratory or a factory. Do the course and you'll learn how to grow your own in a natural sustainable way!   Michele
Thank you so much for a fabulous weekend – Gres and I both thoroughly enjoyed being part of your organic farm and family and taking away so much information with us. We are very keen to start with small projects; baking our own sour dough bread, starting a worm farm, investigating a water tank, being aware of GM foods and buying the non-GM alternative and only feeding the kids organic meats, fruits and vegies. 
Dear Bee, a big thank you to you for having me in your very interesting Gourmet gardening weekend permaculture course. It's such a prestigious experience to see how permaculture works on your farm..and all these wonderful films we got to see and amazing food we got to taste. I am so glad I came. I will try and source some ingredients to make my first sourdough. I look forward to receiving the recipe. Also could you tell me the name again of that herb growing in the patch upslope from your compost? Epi...ti.
Hi Bee
It's Tracey here - I was at the workshop today.  Thanks so much for taking the time out of your obviously very busy life to share your knowledge and experience with us. And for showing us around your amazing property. You really blew me away with what you have done there: building your house yourself is amazing! but everything else as well.  Inspiring!

Hi Bee and Stew .Thank you so much for such a great weekend!  It was so informative and we look forward to implementing things in our garden! Will be in touch soon
Again thank you for a great weekend.  Emmy

And from a couple of youths who want to go all organic but are struggling to afford it:
 Its just that we know that your produce is the best in Australia, and at the most outrageously good value prices, and we not only want to eat your stuff but also support you in what you do as much as we can. We have been thinking of a trip down south soon, and we will definitely come say hi and help out when we can
Club B,
                                                                       Silver Chain,
                                                                         Peninsula Road,
                                                                           Bridgetown 6255
 Bee Winfield,
  3 Thomas road,

Dear Bee,
               Thank-you for giving your talk “Healthy Soil - Healthy Food -
Healthy people - Healthy Planet” to the members of Club B on Friday 26th July 2013.
     What a wealth of information you gave us. It really was a fascinating
presentation and stimulated a lot of interest in the members.  Some of the information you gave was totally new to many of us. It was obvious that you had done a great deal of research and we were grateful that you made the information available to us.
     Thank-you for giving us the little 'GE' pamphlets on the foods so we will be able to do more careful food shopping from now on.
    Thank-you for taking the time to come to Silver Chain to give this
excellent presentation to our members. It was very much appreciated.
Kind Regards,


  On behalf of Silver Chain

     and Club B Organising Committee.

Saturday, September 6, 2014

Winona La Duke

I have discovered Winona LaDuke.
See one of her many speeches hereWinona LaDuke to Speak
At UW-Eau Claire Forum 
   March 22, 2004— Winona LaDuke, an activist for social and environmental issues who served as the Green Party vice presidential candidate in the 1996 and 2000 elections, will close the 62nd season of The Forum at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire on Wednesday, April 7.
Her presentation titled “Environmental Justice from a Native Perspective” will begin at 7:30 p.m. in Zorn Arena. LaDuke’s lecture will be followed by a question-and-answer session and a reception.
An Ojibwe who lives on the White Earth reservation in Minnesota, LaDuke is program director of Honor the Earth, a national Native American environmental justice program. She is founding director of the White Earth Land Recovery Project, a reservation-based land acquisition, environmental advocacy and cultural organization, a former board member of Greenpeace USA and co-chair of the Indigenous Women’s Network.
Born in Los Angeles, LaDuke is a graduate of Harvard and Antioch Universities. In 1995 Time magazine named her as one of America’s 50 most promising leaders under 40 years of age. She was awarded the Thomas Merton Award in 1996, the Ann Bancroft Award for Women’s Leadership Fellowship and the Reebok Human Rights Award, with which she began the White Earth Land Recovery Project.
“The U.S. is the wealthiest and most dominant country in the world, and we can’t keep the lights on in New York City nor can we provide continuous power in a ‘liberated’ Baghdad,’ LaDuke wrote in a recent column for Indian Country Today. “Centralized power production based on fossil fuel and nuclear resources has served to centralize political power, to disconnect communities from responsibility and control over energy, and to create a vast wasteful system. We need to recover democracy. And one key element is democratizing power production.
“We are undeniably addicted whether to an economy based on burning of fossil fuels and wasteful production systems, or to oil,” LaDuke wrote. “We have allowed our addictions to overtake our common sense and a good portion of our decency. We live in a country with the largest disparity of wealth between rich and poor of any industrialized country in the world.”
LaDuke is the author of “All Our Relations: Native Struggles for Land and Life” (1999), a non-fiction work on Native environmentalism. “The Winona LaDuke Reader: A Collection of Essential Writings” was published in 2002.

Saturday, August 30, 2014

A taste of Permaculture tour Sunday June 5th 2016

Guided permaculture tour  Sun June 5th 2016

from 10 am  to 1.30 pm.  

Join Stew and Bee on Merri Bee Organic Farm,Sunday morning this long weekend for an introduction to Permaculture .  We will  take a wander through food forests, some 25 years old, visiting many friendly farm animals along the way. 
On this extensive guided tour you will see more than 90 different mature species of plants that provide fodder, fruit, timber, nuts craft materials or bee forage. Admire the happily grazing free range pigs, sheep, cows and ducks and marvel at the developing bamboo collection. See how nutrients are recycled and water flows through   this thriving eco system. 
Being spring on the farm we may see a chick hatching or a calf  being born if we are very lucky!
Stewart and Bee have  provided most of their own meat, vegetables, fruit, nuts, herbs, condiments, bread and dairy produce from this land for 30 years and are keen to
share  the really useful permaculture design principals which  start with an ethic of Earth and care of people. We have created a day especially for those who  have decided to withdraw their support from multinational agribusiness / pharmaceutical corporations by simply refusing to buy their "food".
If  GMOs, pesticides, food additives, nanno particles, hormones, irradiation, and antibiotics, all packaged up in gaily coloured plastic and delivered via fossil fuel are not for you;   if you believe there must be a way  we can eat ,without adding huge toxic loads to our air, water and soil, then  please join us. Meet  others on the same path and pick up many helpful ideas. 

 Taste the forgotten flavours of compost grown fruit, nutrient dense veges and animal products. Children do appreciate real food and we would love your family to join us for a day of memorable experiences which show where food comes from.
The cost is $75 .00 per adult and $15.00 per child, which includes lunch and teas   . 

See the passive solar human and animal housing, intensive gardens, nursery, poultry sheds and runs, compost and compost tea  production, worm farm, wicking bed, swales, mature rare fruit and nut trees, raspberries, wood lots and  lots more. Bring appropriate footwear and clothing for steep hiking in the fresh air of Nannup.  This workshop will assist those looking for  a property as we  will focus on assessing a block's  potential for permaculture and the principals of design whilst simultaneously engaging your children.  Please note, you are responsible for your children's safety at all times on the farm but we will take all care as well. Please email  after  booking  your spot (instructions  here) . We look forward to meeting you . Cheers, Bee


Sour Dough Bread Day Sunday June 21st 2015

Sour Dough Bread Day  Sunday June 21st 2015

Suffer bright white squares of pliable fluff no more!

Sour Dough Bread Day
  at  Merri Bee Organic Farm  on Sunday June 21st  2015
Please join us,  this will  be fun and useful.
 Merri Bee Organic Farm is a 27 acre Permaculture which has been developing for over 30 years . The visitor will find a broad array of tools and techniques for sustainable living, from soil restoration with worms, compost,  perennial pastures combined with managed grazing, food forestry and bamboo, to intensive gardens and hand made homes, we are growing  a place of genuine wealth and abundance . 
One very handy food which can be the most sustaining is bread. Whole wheat is definitely a super food. It is made more digestable by the sour dough fermentation process, and can introduce pro biotics to your intestinal flora. 
Our sourdough bread class, commences at 9 am and finishes  at 3.30 pm. 

We will teach you very clearly how to bake a bread that will outshine nearly all others not only in  health outcomes but in sheer eating pleasure.  Compared to yeast bread , sour dough bread is not crumbly, is moist and keeps very well without going mouldy. It should not taste sour.  We have taught many people the art and they have happily emailed pictures of their creations since doing the course, saying the family are stoked with their new baking skills.  We  provide 
everything: lunch and teas,  course notes, recipes, wonderful bread and starter culture to take home….. so just bring your enthusiasm to learn.
Let’s face facts; what passes for bread these days contains only 6 cents worth of wheat and a cocktail of emulsifiers, bleach, preservatives, and GM soy. It is no longer “the staff of life.” It is not fit for human or animal consumption , and in fact  animals will avoid it.
Over night two very different breads, each in a plastic bag, were in a box in our rough camp kitchen. The home made sourdough wheat bread  on the right was devoured by wild life  ( note the excavation) but wisely, they did not touch the commerical bread on left.

Wheat and Lee growing strongly in 2013
 Learn about how real sourdough bread (with it’s life enhancing nutritional properties) starts with a healthy soil. Follow the creation of bread from the paddock to the farmhouse where we will experience the intriguing age old practices of threshing, winnowing and  milling the grain. On this day you will become proficient at mixing, kneading and baking a bread that will provide essential nourishment for your family. We will show you the streamlined method which Bee uses to turn out 25 loaves every saturday for the markets. Of course you will not go hungry , we intend to send you home nourished with home made soup and many variations on  bread. Sample Merri Bee olives, dried fruits, fresh nuts and the fabulous fresh fruits bestowed on us in the food forest in June. All organic of course.
The cost of this powerfully educational day is   $ 120.00 per person or $200 per couple. For those individuals who car pool, there is a $20 discount.
For enquiries and /or to reserve your spot please email  or phone Bee on 97561408

For further reading on the health benefits of wholewheat bread see the web site of the Dr Weston A Price Foundation. Dr Price used a freshly ground wheat gruel to heal children suffering from terminal disease. Sometimes very sick children were brought to  Dr Price when all hope was gone, even as  the priest had been called in to administer last rights to these children. His cure was freshly ground wheat, golden butter from cows in spring grass, and  whole milk. The young patients were running around in no time. Its all in his excellent  1920's published book  Nutrition and Physical Degeneration

Monday, August 18, 2014

Deflecting cancer

Once rare , now common, cancer touches all of us. 

Some humans have released carcinogenic substances into the air, soil, food and water. Radiation must also be building up as elements such as plutonium do not go away for several centuries. So how can we  reduce our exposure and risk ? The best help I've heard all in one place is from Jerry Brunetti,listen here: Food as Medicine  

Jerry unfortunately passed away a month ago. He  ( gorgeous BTW) was  a prolific writer and speaker on farming and health and a self treated survivor of non Hodgkin Lymphoma which he kept at bay 15 years after doctors gave him 6 months to live.  

He said  that tumours are not deadly, it is  metatastic illness which kills .  We all have cancer cells in our blood every day. It is our immune system that intercepts and deals with these "seeds" which emanate from tumours. Chemo weakens our immune system. There are heaps of foods that strengthen our immune systems and they are listed below.The list comes  from the Weston A Price Foundation . 

I notice that everything but the seafood is available from us. We are very proud to be able to supply the variety and quality of food required to be healing and protective, from our permaculture. We have stopped frying in anything but animal fats and consume them gently heated if not raw. Only the cold pressed oils will do, such as olive , and these
Our avos grown with quality compost. The African Horned Cue is high in Vit C
 should not be heated. Not all people see the wisdom in paying more for their groceries but how much would you  spend to cure a sick loved one? Diet related  diseases are  costing Australia, Canada and the U.S. a whopping  80%  of GDP.and of course cancer is a booming industry.
 In  2008, America spent $76.6 billion on caring for children ill due to exposure to farm chemicals.

Its time to find out how to :

Protect Yourself Against Cancer With Food

Once a rare disease, cancer is now widespread, affecting as much as one-third of the population. The rise in cancer in the West has paralleled the rise in factory farming and the use of processed foods containing vegetable oils and additives.
Orthodox methods for treating cancer (radiation and chemotherapy) do not prolong life. The best approach to cancer is prevention.
Traditional diets, containing animal and plant foods farmed by nontoxic methods, are rich in factors that protect against cancer. Many of these protective factors are in the animal fats.
Vegetarianism does not protect against cancer. In fact, vegetarians are particularly prone to cancers of the nervous system and reproductive organs.

Nutrients in Whole Foods that Protect Against Cancer

Vitamin A: Strengthens the immune system. Essential for mineral metabolism and endocrine function. Helps detoxify. True vitamin A is found only in animal foods such as cod liver oil; fish and shellfish; and liver, butter and egg yolks from pasture-fed animals. Traditional diets contained ten times more vitamin A than the typical modern American diet.
Vitamin C: An important antioxidant that prevents damage by free radicals. Found in many fruits and vegetables but also in certain organ meats valued by primitive peoples.
Vitamin B6: Deficiencies are associated with cancer. Contributes to the function of over 100 enzymes. Most available from animal foods.
Vitamin B12: Deficiencies are associated with cancer. Found only in animal foods.
Vitamin B17: Protects against cancer. Found in a variety of organically grown grains, legumes, nuts and berries.
Vitamin D: Required for mineral absorption. Strongly protective against breast and colon cancer. Found only in animal foods such as cod liver oil, lard, shellfish and butterfat, organ meats and egg yolks from grass-fed animals. Traditional diets contained ten times more vitamin D than the typical modern American diet.
Vitamin E: Works as an antioxidant at the cellular level. Found in unprocessed oils as well as in animal fats like butter and egg yolks.
Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA): Strongly protective against breast cancer. Found in the butterfat and meat fat of grass-fed ruminant animals.
Cholesterol: A potent antioxidant that protects against free radicals in cell membranes. Found only in animal foods.
Minerals: The body needs generous amounts of a wide variety of minerals to protect itself against cancer. Minerals like zinc, magnesium and selenium are vital components of enzymes that help the body fight carcinogens. Minerals are more easily absorbed from animal foods.
Lactic Acid and Friendly Bacteria: Contribute to the health of the digestive tract. Found in old fashioned lacto-fermented foods.
Saturated Fats: Strengthen the immune system. Needed for proper use of the essential fatty acids. The lungs cannot function without saturated fats. Found mostly in animal foods.
Long-Chain Fatty Acids: Arachidonic acid (AA), eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) help fight cancer on the cellular level. They are found mostly in animal foods such as butter, organ meats, cod liver oil and seafood.
Co-enzyme Q10: Highly protective against cancer. Found only in animal foods.

Compounds in Processed Foods that Can Cause Cancer

Trans Fatty Acids: Imitation fats in shortenings, margarines and most commercial baked goods and snack foods. Strongly associated with cancer of the lungs and reproductive organs.
Rancid fats: Industrial processing creates rancidity (free radicals) in commercial vegetable oils.
Omega-6 fatty acids: Although needed in small amounts, an excess can contribute to cancer. Dangerously high levels of omega-6 fatty acids are due to the overuse of vegetable oils in modern diets.
MSG: Associated with brain cancer. Found in almost all processed foods, even when "MSG" does not appear on the label. Flavorings, spice mixes and hydrolyzed protein contain MSG.
Aspartame: Imitation sweetener in diet foods and beverages. Associated with brain cancer.
Pesticides: Associated with many types of cancer. Found in most commercial vegetable oils, fruit juices, vegetables and fruits.
Hormones: Found in animals raised in confinement on soy and grains. Plant-based hormones are plentiful in soy foods.
Artificial Flavorings and Colors: Associated with various types of cancers, especially when consumed in large amounts in a diet of junk food.
Refined Carbohydrates: Sugar, high fructose corn syrup and white flour are devoid of nutrients. The body uses up nutrients from other foods to process refined carbohydrates. Tumor growth is associated with sugar consumption.

The Weston A. Price Foundation

·         A reliable source of accurate nutrition information.
·         A strong voice against imitation foods.
·         Does not receive funding from any government agency, nor from the meat and dairy industries.
·         Campaigns for a return to healthy traditional fats.
·         Warns consumers about the dangers of modern soy foods.
·         Promotes access to unprocessed whole milk products from pasture-fed animals.
·         Keeps members informed through Wise Traditions, a lively quarterly magazine.

·         Helps consumers find healthy, farm-fresh foods through a system of local chapters.

Monday, July 28, 2014

Ducky dream homes

Ducks are cheaper to keep than chooks because they just seem to get by without much grain. This is great for Permies, as we are usually penniless, building up real wealth (starting with the soil). With ducks you can plant stuff to attract slugs and snails, so the sappy , strappy and succulent plants (like agapanthus that usually get infested with molluscs) are great. Ducks love to snaffle around in them with their very busy bills, cleaning up slugs snails and their tiny, clear, caviar- like eggs. Get your organic minded old friends to collect snails from their gardens  for your ducks, and maybe you can return the favour with duck eggs. There is nothing nicer than a duck egg, such large and rich yellow yolks. To me they don't taste different but are just bigger. 

 In old China it was common to rent- a -duck flock to clean up your garden in the winter. A guy would come with his ducks in a trailer pulled by bicycle. The ramp went down , the ducks emerged and went rifling through the plot . At the end of the day the ducks were enticed back into the trailer , or should I say the last duck up the ramp got a tap with a bamboo cane. The Chinese use to hatch out eggs in cane baskets heated and  insulated in some way. They would bond with their birds from hatching day and for the next 6 week. With cormorants the fisherman lived on a boat and when it was hatching time they would go below decks in the darkness with the baby birds for these 6 weeks  . They then had a faithful servant who for decades would catch fish for their master. But back to us:
  Comfrey is a great favorite with ducks but must be established a few years before they are introduced as they will love it to death. I have had to put cages over my comfrey to save it from ducks.
Oh crikey , they love chicory to stumps  too. So they have great taste and favour the deep rooted herbs which have lots of minerals. I haven’t got them on the seed catalogue but I do have some alfalfa and chicory seeds if you like to order some within Australia please email me ( There'll be a lot more very good plants which I haven’t observed yet but now that you’ve asked I will keep my eyes out. It would be good to have at least 2 pens and a house in the middle with hatches to either pen, to allow the plants to regrow between onslaughts.
 Put some hay in the house and if the house is locked up against foxes at night there will be nice clean eggs in the morning when you let them out for the day. We have a duck pond in their pen which is a bad idea: the sillie billies lay eggs in the water. On the good side, the ducks swim out over the pond to freedom of the fields very early, leaving their more destructive friends the chooks inside the pen ( as they cant swim)  till midday. Chooks really are like small rotary hoes whose energies are best controlled . 
 It really isnt groovy to allow ducks near the chooks water supply as they will muddy it up in seconds.  But you can easily block duck access to the water with a small fence that the chooks will easily jump over.  The permaculture principle of " turning a problem into a solution" means we can use the habit of ducks to foul their water to great effect if we place a movable duck pond such as the half shell plastic paddle pools available in the colder months for just $12.oo, in the orchard. The ducks will naturally congregate under the shady fruit tree at the pond. A hose can be connected to whatever irrigation system you are using for the trees. The dirty water is tipped out, the pond moved to the next tree and refilled as often as you can be bothered. The ducks will eat low fruit, but there should be plenty enough for you. The kahki Cambell and Indian Runner ( egg laying type ) ducks do not fly . The dual purpose meat and egg laying duck the Muscovey however, will fly even though they are a far heavier bird. They not only fly, they employ vertical takeoff like a helicopter, making them ever so hard to catch.  We only put up with them because of they are so funny to watch and have heaps of personality. Remember the duck in Babe? A muscovey.  I find them better layers and better mothers than our aging pekins too, but it all depends on the strain of duck you have. I once had some awesome Kahki Cambells.